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Any more others who went to 4box Dynamics Pte Ltd at 82 Playfair Road #04-01?
Here’s others feedback from another site:
Suspicious. Went to their office, and they claim to be helping us recoup investment losses from Tropical Forestry Venture(s), by taking part in a class act, and they are engaged by Ong & Co LLC. When we questioned further, they got defensive and ushered us out of the office. Refused to give any name card, then got hostile.
2017-10-06 19:27:13 – Anonymous
I don’t think so because I went to their lawyer office and also I engage the lawyer service for my dad accident insurance claim.
2017-10-07 12:00:17 – Anonymous
Definitely a scam. Was approached by them to help chase after my invested amount from Reign Gainers. I asked them how they got my number, they said from the lawyers. I then asked who are your lawyers. The caller then put down the phone. Suspect they are good friends with Oommen Mathews, owner of scam company Reign Gainers.
2017-10-13 10:10:54 – Anonymous
They pressured me to sign an agreement to end my share termination with Desa Amanah Pte Ltd. They scared me that debtors will sue me as my name is in ACRA as a shareholder. I paid $2000. I decided not to continued as I am afraid nothing will happen if I pay the full amount of $5000. I couldn’t get my refund back. Warning to all. Their lawyer is Ong and Co LLC. My info got leak to them by somebody. He never tell me who.
2017-12-04 17:37:56 – Anonymous
Please also beware of this company 4box Dynamics Pte Ltd which is under the same boss as 4mind Ventures Pte Ltd.
I was called to 4box Dynamics Pte Ltd office in 2017 in the pretext of taking class action suits against my past investment with another company.
They told me i had to pay $24,500 for the class action suits fee and also the lawyer fees and the chance of winning my case is 100%. I was sold by the idea and decided to joined them. However after few months, they called me again and tell me that I have to pay another $10,000 becos of the complexity of my case. And they assured me that all the money I have paid to them will be claimed back by them with the company they are taking class action suit. After I paid them i never heard anything from them at all pertaining to my case. When i asked them , I was told my case are still with their lawyers.
This year in April i was called again to their office. This time they told me that my case have a very slim chance of winning and i will lost everything.
However they have a rescue plan for me in which i have to invest with 4mind Ventures and I can recover back the losses I’ve made within 3 years as they are giving me yearly dividends plus the proceed from the sales of the property they owned – Le Quest Condominium at Bukit Batok.
They claimed they have 3 units at LE Quests which is fully paid and also their past project which they owned is 3 unit of property at Seaside Residences which they have paid in full. I was not that convince with what they have told me and I decided to do my own checking before I made up my decision.
I went home and decided to do a background check on both company as I have this feeling that they are trying to asked me to keep paying for more.
I was shocked to find out that 4box Dynamics Pte Ltd and 4mind Ventures Pte Ltd are under the same director – Suhaidi Bin Saimi.
You can verify it if you check ACRA for both companies. More shocking revelations is that this guy Suhaidi Bin Saimi is working with FEDEX Singapore.
Please go to 4mind Ventures Pte Ltd facebook and you can see his photo. Anyone who knows people working in Fedex Singapore can confirm he is a staff.
I was wondering how come a Fedex staff can run a business which I can say like ponzi scheme or worst, a scam.
For all those who have invested with 4Mind Ventures Pte Ltd, please be aware of the company. Pls do your own thorough background check of the company because i am also an investor and i believe the promise of dividend and guaranteed capital return is just another trick for them to make us investors pay for more. I have my doubts that the 3 unit in Le Quests was fully paid as what they claimed. I also have doubts that their past project 3 unit of property at Seaside Residences was fully paid. Let us all check with the developers of both projects Le Quest Condominium and Seaside residences to verify 4Mind Ventures Pte Ltd claim that they paid fully for all the units.
For those who have been called to 4mind Ventures Pte Ltd office to attend to their seminar, pls do not invest with them before you fo your own thorough background check as this is another company which will be running away from investor in few years time. Don’t get our pocket burn by this unscrupulous scammers at 4mind Ventures Pte Ltd.
2018-07-04 04:50:26 – jt77Reply
4box Dynamics Pte Ltd, RST Solutions Pte Ltd & 4Mind Ventures Pte Ltd SCAMS
12 May 2018
Recovery Room Scams
Recovery room scams typically involve cold-calls made to victims of a failed investment scheme, or owners of timeshare memberships. The callers would claim to offer assistance in obtaining compensation or recovery of monies on behalf of the victims, in exchange for some fees. Since January 2018, the Police have received at least 16 reports of such scams and victims have lost more than $96000.
After paying the fees, the victims did not get their monies as promised, and instead ended up incurring more losses in the form of fees they paid for the purported recovery process.
How Do You Spot a Recovery Room Operation?
a Recovery offers are often unsolicited and made via phone calls.
The scammers generally introduce themselves as recovery professionals, who are able to assist victims to recover their investment losses or the value of their existing timeshare memberships. They will often request to meet victims in person, and reveal little information over the phone.
b The office appears fairly empty.
The recovery firm will appear to be relatively empty or newly set-up. Such firms do not have proper operations and usually rent the office premises for a short period of time, solely for the purpose of meeting the victims. Other red flags would include firms which are either newly incorporated or not registered with ACRA.
c Victims will be asked to make upfront payments to begin the process of recovering failed investments or the value of their existing timeshare memberships.
These payments are variably termed as “legal fees”, “administrative fees”, “service fees” or other kind of fees. Some of the common recovery processes include helping victims to file lawsuits or issue letters of demand to the failed investment company or timeshare companies, provide debt collection services or sell the initial “investment/timeshare membership”. Subsequently, the recovery firm may request for additional payments, to further facilitate the recovery process.
How to Deal with Such Calls?
Members of the public are advised to be vigilant when receiving unsolicited calls from purported recovery firms, and should adopt the following crime prevention measures:
Be wary when an unknown person calls you regarding your investments or timeshare memberships, especially when you did not approach anyone to recover your investment monies;
Ignore such calls. Do not divulge your personal particulars or information on your investments to the callers;
Do not follow the instruction or invitation of the caller to call him back or to meet him in person;
Always check on the credibility and identity of the caller before making any financial commitments;
Conduct background checks on the company before engaging their services. For example, when was the company incorporated? Are there complaints against the company on the Internet? Does the company have a proven track record of delivering what they represented?
Request for a copy of the documentation on their proposals, representations, contracts and agreements. Be wary if the company is reluctant to provide you with such documentation and only provides verbal promises;
Exercise extra caution especially if you are asked to make upfront payments with the promise of assisting you to recover your monies.
PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT
SINGAPORE POLICE FORCE
12 May 2018 @ 11:55AM
They will send out this messages:
Dear Mr/Mdm XXX
Appointment Date: 26/8/2017
Time of appt: 3pm
Case: U Harvest Pte Ltd
Agreement No: UHXXXX/XXXXXXX
Contract Involved: 1
Address : 82 Playfair Road #04-01 S (368001).
Officer In Charge: Mr Andy.
Please kindly bring all your relevant documentation for verification purposes.
Those who went to 4box Dynamics Pte Ltd at 82 Playfair Road, please leave your email here or send email to those who had posted below. We will try to contact you.Reply
Minnie Han, Lindy Lim , Amanda Lim & U Harvest people …
Mr Ho Ngoc Vinh is looking for all of you, please contact him.
I had also invested in the agar wood trees with U Harvest. I just came across this forum.
This was what transpired…
1. Have lodged a police report. Status is currently under investigation.
2. Went for the “sharing” by 4box at their office last month. They said can help to retrieve back monies invested if get their assistance. But I didn’t proceed.
Would be happy to get in touch with other U Harvest agar wood investors so we can keep one another updated.
Do drop me an email at [email protected] so we can discuss further.
Dear all, so sad to heard that some of you had been cheated and scammed by bad guys. I am lucky that I got back my investment 100% for 2 years that the plantation are in Laos. My friend who follow me invest and also got back her investment. Thanks GOD for all His provision.
Why don’t we all get together sometime and look into this case from recovery point of view. Don’t think individually we will reach anywhere.
It is very unfortunate that such things have happened, but we could always look for a solutionReply
Yes I agree with you. Can you email me at [email protected] so we can group together to discuss?
I can join also, please keep me in a loop. my email: [email protected]Reply
This is my email
Like Steve F said, you’ve been scammed.!!! He hit the nail on the head. Don’t waste yr time & money trying to recoup yr losses. U r throwing good money after bad!Reply
As the late great Alan Rickman said in Die Hard “hit them again”.
You have been scammed once, now the secondary scammers come round and try and take more from you. They will keep coming until you stop paying or go bust. I suggest stop paying. Its called a suckers list in the trade. Its been used in timeshare, land banking plots, oil sands, and now apparently “exotic ” trees. If you can’t get your money back from Vietnam they certainly can’t get it back for you or from you.
Anyone have got any updates from the police?
Regards to TFV, Uharvest and RST yet?
Or receive letter of demand from any mentioned above?Reply
We are looking into the matter and will take the appropriate actions accordingly …
As the matter is ongoing, We are unable to reveal our findings to you.
This should help everyone here to recognize these U Harvest people who had been selling agarwood investment scheme, they are visiting this blog and hope can see this post.
I will post their photos & description one by one below. These are only some of them, hope others can contribute here.
Some of their colleagues had already surrendered to the authorities and to exposed all these nonsense. We ask earnestly the others to do the same.
You can hide but we will find you.Reply
Yes my is also an Indian guy too his approach is pressurising.
After with all those words he mentioned I felt threathen and he ask the Malay guy to come in to discuss the engaging fees of their lawyer for termination and class action suit.
No matter how I mentioned i do not have money they always find ways to lower the fees by stepping out of the room to make phone call and return to the room to say they can help me with this and that if I can pay this sum of $$$ or with instalments plan.
I say not today I need to seek 2nd opinion I take my contract and left.
The Malay guy mentioned if I ever received letter of demand look for them immediately they still can help abit.
I believed they photo copy my contract with my address on it planning for more things on later stage.
The police also mentioned to me to not give in this is scam.Reply
Thanks for your piece on APC Asia Pacific Capital. You were careful and avoided the hook to invest. I know of close to 100 investors since 2011, 2012, 2013…2015.. who are finding that they are not getting any tola of Oud oil at the end of 7 years ( for those in 2011 ) .
Examining the contract/agreement , it seems they have phrased a lop-sided Agreement. Do you of any Singapore investors who are in our position.Reply